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What Was Your Experience at the Times?
John Yang: The media treatment of you, and i was at the new york times, obviously. We met on the campaign trail. I remember i found you so fascinating. And yet, so many of my colleagues in the main stream press of the time either thought your campaign was a punch line or refused to acknowledge it. It felt like there was a message that the democratic candidate was supposed to say, and anyone that deviated from that message was sort of laughed at or underminedor just pushed to the side.