What's the Deal With Trump and the Big Leap?

"We have all these arguments about, I don't want to say nothing," she said. "There is something substantial in the way that we feel about things or, or values even." She was referring to a recent argument between her and co-host Michaela Coontz over an anti bullying policy at WNYC. 'What are we actually talking about? We can't even agree on what the thing is that we're arguing about'