I was a fan of Jobe Warwick Great writer at whose he's been out of the Washington Post now for like 25 years. He won a Pulitzer for reporting back in I think the mid 90s as well, but this guy wasn't on any podcast. The most I do was someone I don't know before I go to get them to be invited to come in is I'll go see if they have something online where they talkedHopefully they do and I'll listen to 30 seconds and I just make sure they have the ability to talk. It's not so much that it's like I know the people out there are gonna be able to and I'm gonna waste this person's time But

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