Is There a Risk of Death on a Real Initiation?

In the heat of the moment, we are utterly, utterly naked, raw and terrified. And those are not in mutual contradiction. I think that is probably the best case scenario for true initiation. You you have listen, some of these great initiatory rites that we can we can dust off, like some of them involved near drownings. It's possible. In the historic record of some of these that actual people did drown. But despite that, though you say you are, but you're really not, because part of us always is, right? But then we do it in spite of it. Don't let ar hour in the coparitor kind of, that's what i'm