Jon Lax joins the podcast this week, you're welcome. We tracked down the elusive former Meta VP of Product and cofounder of legendary Teehan+Lax in a mountain cabin where he's not planning the future of technology and spatial computing because he's earned a goddamn break. Curious about what it was like at Facebook as they built all of the other parts of Facebook? How about learning about the inner workings of the Meta spatial computing team, Oculus, and VR? How did Teehan+Lax get acquired by Facebook in the first place? Where did T+L turn a corner into a value-based model? Remember how crucial the T+L ⁠iPhone GUI Templates⁠ were? Where did that come from? And finally, what can we learn about time-based billing from the single greatest resource on the topic, 1993's legal thriller Wilford Brimley star vehicle The Firm? What the hell are you waiting for? Press play.