Richard: How do you use this in terms of talking with the ceos that you guys work with and kind of getting an idea of where this economy is ing, what the market environment's going to be like? Carol: Well, i think we try to persuade companies. For example, after the a murder of george floyd, we went right into the field and did a study of all parts of american population. Richard: What concerns me is this growing divide between the top 25 % of income, who trust institutions a lot, like 65%. And the people in the lower, lowest 25% of income,. who don't trust institutions, like forty per cent.