I think that I'm on board with the, I can never pronounce it, Yuthafro? Oh, Yuthfro? Yeah. The dilemma of whether there should be some criteria for morality other than what God says. But nevertheless, I could imagine that the actual moral beliefs that a religious person has are different because their religious beliefs affect how they think about the world. And in fact, people often, when they're talking about ethics, jump right to abortion, which is one of the most complicated moral topics.

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