I think uh like having Having having kids also helped me the pandemic too, but just be like better with boundaries Like I will do that But I won't do any of that other stuff you're asking me to do. It's funny because as I started cultivating those same types of things from reading the daily dad and the pandemic And stuff you and I talk about during podcasts when you're kicking would-be landscapers out of your bookshop. You realize that these are hard for others to put forward but so much more important than you ever imagined.
Jordan Harbinger is a podcaster, radio personality, entrepreneur and longtime friend of Ryan’s. So when he invited Ryan to come to The West in LA to join him for a live conversation for his podcast, The Jordan Harbinger Show, Ryan jumped on a plane right away. This is that conversation, in which they discuss how they find their flow states, the ins and outs of teaching Stoicism, cultivating a healthy relationship with work, and more. You can follow Jordan’s work on Twitter @JordanHarbinger and Instagram @jordanharbinger, and on his website www.jordanharbinger.com.
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