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The Religious Impulse Playing Out in the West Coast
The clearest way you can see the religious impulse playing out where we all live and work is, it's just this incredible level of obsession with rules around food and then rules around sex. Rather than try to replace existing religions because as we know, nothing's ever going to be Judaism, just my personal bag here on the religious front.
Marc Andreessen of Andreessen Horowitz sits down with Erik Torenberg and his Moment of Zen co-hosts Dan Romero and Antonio Garcia Martinez to discuss AI, religion, San Francisco politics, Eric Voegelin, and life extension. Subscribe to Moment of Zen: https://link.chtbl.com/moz
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LINKS:
Check out Upstream's first interview with Marc, about Marc's Intellectual Education :
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0bYfnuju3PhHFtSGgiMmoz?si=ecLDCrn_TLaYa7Bh8Q50qg
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marc-andreessen-on-his-intellectual-journey-the-past/id1678893467?i=1000605668194
Marc Andreessen, Fighting https://pmarca.substack.com/p/fighting
Marc Andreessen, Why AI Will Save The World. https://pmarca.substack.com/p/why-ai-will-save-the-world
Eric Voegelin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Voegelin
Book: Regime Change by Patrick J. Deneen https://www.amazon.com/Regime-Change-Toward-Postliberal-Future/dp/0593086902
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(02:30) The evolution of human entertainment from epic poetry to NPC Tiktoks
(07:50) Violence is a choice
(12:00) True democracy mandates military service as a virtue
(16:05) Sponsor: NetSuite
(17:22) Can San Francisco be fixed?
(28:03) Marc's empirical argument for AI
(31:45) Where Sam Harris gets it wrong
(35:35) Eric Voegelin's concept of Immanetizing the Eschaton
(41:40) What happens to religion after AI
(48:54) What would Nietzsche say?
(49:44) LLMs are already the subject of a religious war
(53:28) What comes after liberalism
(01:03:03) Based on Zuck's recent PR success, are alpha males back?
(01:07:23) Men’s tailoring and the stripping of masculinity
(01:09:50) Is Twitter’s influence the real world? Alana Newhouse on MOZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtPetHBVw&t=349s
(01:13:25 ) Is Left vs Right the central conflict of our time?
(01:18:30) Life extension
TWITTER:
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