i find it frustrating, na, how people should have allined themselves with one or the other. You need bes apensa movement. And i think a lot of mistakes that are made in modern campaigning are people forgetting that you need both. So there are people who are very, very at getting attention, but very bad at backing that up with what they actually want. Can i ask helen? I mean, i didnt if helen you would talk about the women in the past. Well, we come back to this issue of the the protesters, and, to some extent, the disrupters and who might make headlines,. The people who are quietly trying to work things through the

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