JP Morgan has a bit of analysis that they did where they said that they think the GPT-5 training run is currently on so uh get it up I guess it's just a matter of time but again it'll be very interesting to see if we can push with much further given the kind of compute limits from physics. One last thought is like you know is there something of an irreducible complexity to speech that is that causes this limit that this kind of flattening? And do we get to a point where every once in a while an idiot podcast guy like me says some random string of letters and numbers that is totally unpredictable or what?

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