The Importance of Intimacy in a Pandemic

During the pandemic, we started a regular connection that was again, it was about just connecting. And because everybody in that group is an emotionally mature guy who understands the benefit of that type of interaction and that sort of intimacy. I will say that with the college buddies, we haven't been great about the frequency lately as everyone's lives have gotten back to normal. But you got pretty good at being honest and like disclosing and kind of in those conversations.