The History of the Deep State in the US

Marc Andreessen of Andreessen Horowitz returns to discuss his recent essays on AI, violence, and much more including: San Francisco, mandatory military service, Voegelin, and life extension. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zen

Check out our other interviews with Marc:

Moment of Zen E1: on SBF/FTX, Twitter, and Open AI/Chat GPT

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0smJY3xJXFhVsL0cX2BtVf?si=89cfd3ddc0434eb0

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moment-of-zen/id1661672738?i=1000591411124

Moment of Zen E2: on Elon Musk, Nietzsche, and America's Thousand Year Empire

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0qzUqkt0rCIfVsbUw7eZ77?si=1f7eec7bc1954380

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moment-of-zen/id1661672738?i=1000591713971

TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode preview

(01:26) The evolution of human entertainment from epic poetry to NPC Tiktoks

(06:50) Violence is a choice

(11:00) True democracy mandates military service as a virtue

(20:00) Can San Francisco be fixed?

(31:00) Marc's empirical argument for AI

(34:45) Sponsor: NetSuite

(35:45) Where Sam Harris gets it wrong

(39:37) Eric Voegelin's concept of Immanetizing the EschatonWhat happens to religion after AI?

(52:50) What would Nietzsche say?

(54:00) LLMs are already the subject of a religious war

(01:03:30) What comes after liberalism

(01:11:20) Men’s tailoring and the stripping of masculinity

(01:13:50) Is Twitter’s influence the real world?

(01:17:20) Is Left vs Right the central conflict of our time?

(01:22:28) Life extension

TWITTER:

@pmarca (Marc)

@dwr (Dan)

@antoniogm (Antonio)

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

LINKS:

Marc Andreessen, Fighting https://pmarca.substack.com/p/fighting

Marc Andreessen, Why AI Will Save The World. https://pmarca.substack.com/p/why-ai-will-save-the-world

Eric Voegelin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Voegelin

Book: Regime Change by Patrick J. Deneen https://www.amazon.com/Regime-Change-Toward-Postliberal-Future/dp/0593086902

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