i like you caution us though, that this experience, we're not going to go into it, and ok, here we are. Everything's working perfectly. You use the word messy. Could you talk a about this messiness? i think it's important,. if we're ever going to try to start to adopt some of these practices, to recognize, not only might you, but i think it wouldn't go so far as to say you absolutely will encounter messiness Whith you talk about, maybe on a practical standpoint, what that messiness look has looked like, specifically for you, so we might know what we might encounter?"