I was reminded that this morning listening, starting to listen to maps of meaning. You have some autobiographical material at the beginning about your own religious journey. As a young as a youngster and then as a young man, with a depression and some physical ailments. And so i think my experience, perhaps is, it's more extreme than that of many people. I'm very positively oriented towards human beings in the main,. despite i think we're great. Flaw terribly, but, but, no wonder, no wonder.

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