Meyer and Rogan's Conversations

I thought Meyer was very articulate. I thought he did a good job. And the thing I appreciate about Meyer and Rogan, too,. These are men who clearly almost certainly don't agree on a lot of things. But they got along really well. They were able to actually engage substantively. So I thought it was a pretty model conversation in that respect. It's just so easy when you're just in the stuff to just talk in a way that you're used to and forget that like most people have no idea what 90% of the words you just used to me, right? You can be religious polytheist or pantheist or panentheist or anything like that