The stigma associated with mental health was really pernicious and a real problem in our industry. i got connected to it by jeremy bloom whose se of integrate, which were investors in jeremy was a olympic skeer. And so i started thinking about this lot, going back six or seven years ago, and had as my own, sort of one of my own internal things to help eliminate the stigma associate with mental health. But that led to another thing, and that's he answer to your question, which is  jerry had been a buddhist for many years, and i was always interested in buddhism intellectually,. not as religion, but not