Introduction

Nick Suttner: Welcome back to I Plan the Secret Labs of Games. We have candid conversations with other game creators that dive deep into the art craft and process of making games. And we have two awesome guests today returning for their third maybe game of the year show with us. They were here most recently as a guest cohost for a 100th episode, our escape academy episode; also joined us for the past few came of the years. Katamari Damasi for condomacy for grass by books. Escape from designer, including the travelers guide to little Soderberg, finder of Satoshi welcome back again Laura.