Application: The Chemical Furnace

"I feel like I've been kind of alone in it. And it's not alone as an alonliness sort of way, but more like, okay, this is what's happening to you," he says. "And so all these conversations that we've had in the past and the things that ... foster curiosity for like being a better version of what I can do,. they all kind of have presented themselves in the last few months."