Is There a Difference Between a Novel and a Self-Help Book?

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The novel is still my favorite art form, I think it's up there with out with albums. You're not going to see in my lifetime at least anything that mimics the, the heart of a beautiful novel. What works is having a deep visceral understanding. It's almost as though you understand something down to your bone marrow. There's a whole lot of knowledge and facts on Wikipedia, but it's generally not very interesting.

Joshua Fields Millburn is one-half of The Minimalists. He is also a New York Times–bestselling author, Emmy-nominated Netflix filmmaker, podcaster, writing instructor, and international speaker.

But in this conversation, he spoke about why he doesn’t get too attached to those labels, the practice of grounding, why he doesn’t use his phone on Saturdays, why discipline is a misnomer, and much more.

(0:00) Intro

(4:55) How Do Accomplishments Feel?

(6:25) Kapil Gupta

(16:03) Why Are We Doing Things?

(21:28) Grounding

(27:01) Un-Schooling

(30:10) How Does Joshua Choose Teachers?

(33:00) Discipline Is A Misnomer?

(40:00) Screenless Saturdays

(45:00) Hugging Fans & Connection

(50:43) Josh on AI

(52:08) Fiction/Reading