I think the idea of moral circle is very important here. Many people will put animals outside that moral circle, but it doesn't have to be just animals. Humans in history have put all kinds of different humans outside their moral circle. It's just as bad if a cow or a pig or a horse or a dog feels pain as if a human feels a similar amount of pain. But where are interests similar, like not suffering a physical pain, but also a wide range of interests too, then I think we should expand that moral circle.

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