Shankaracharya or the Upanishad takes these and is trying to draw our attention to something other than these. It's like I am trying to show you the light and the fan and the recording device, but underlying all of this is electricity. Here, somewhat analogously, Upanishad is not interested in these things. That's why I said one Swami when one person came and was sort of weeping and telling all the problems in Samsara and the Swami shouted at him, I am not interested in your problems. So, he got shocked. The waker has many problems. And the dreamer too has problems. If it's a nightmare, there are