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#005 Joe Hertler: Tapping Into Creative Genius & Pursuing Joy Through Creativity
Smart Friends
Music Is Like a Levelled Up Version of Writing
Kise: I've always liked to write. My parents paid for half of my college. So i took a lot o, like, poetry and religion courses which directly became on being. The first record was very much inspired by the stuff i was learning about in college. And they were just acoustic songs, and i was playing them at coffee shops. Just kind of happened to find a band really, kind of at the end of college. And that was the liy quilted attic section. That's really where it all started. Ge, that’s really where itall started. Kise: If you're trying to add depth and intensity and stuff to something that your
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