In reality, the four skills are often mashed up together and you find that you're doing things like listening and speaking at the same time. It all gets very messy when language is actually applied to real communication in the real world. Here's a little note about pronunciation and a sort of disclaimer. To be honest, this is just a podcast episode that I wanted to make about the four skills and it expanded into an episode all about learning English as a holistic process. So it's worth it is worth learning the phonemic script. It is worth getting the sounds app on your phone. The main thing is that you speak clearly, not which regional accent you have. Clarity is the thing to