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You're Thinking of Cheating Death in a Subconscious Way, Right?
Mark Norman: Like our terror of death, our fear of death is one of the central creative forces of the human condition. We're trying to delude ourselves that somehow we can become immortal through our art. If you die tomorrow, you still have all these hours of pods. So I'm truly grateful, Mr. Mark Norman, that you would spend your very valuable time with me even though it could all go away.