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67: The News Doesn’t Have to Make Us Anxious, with Michele Carroll

Where We Go Next

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You're Not Your Thoughts

Carroll: I was struggling with depression and anxiety in the mid 2010s. She says cognitive behavioral therapy helped her realize that you are not your ideas. Carroll believes we're a person with many ideas that can change over time. The very idea that we are our ideas is what makes conversations so difficult, she says.

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