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050: We Can Be Heroes with Jason Ogle

User Defenders – UX Design & Personal Growth

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How to Fight for Your Users

Jason: I like to observe them using the design. There's no better way to know whether it's working or not than to actually watch them struggle with it. And another way that I fight for the users is just kind of being vocal about bad design, especially by enterprise level companies who have the capital to fix it. Jason: The value you're bringing and the value this podcast brings to our industry are immeasurable.

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