It's possible to be healthy psychologically in a way that I never imagined right and then when you link it up to the traditional literature around any of this stuff again so much of it is shot through with with superstition and other worldliness of of religion. Once you have one of these experiences on psychedelics or on a drug like MDMA you know that there's a there thereYou know that unconditional love is a possibility right? You could spend 10 hours in front of a tree and find that to be the most rewarding experience of your of your life, he says. "That's a possible state of consciousness now"

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