i think we do need to push back in the way you're describing. But the but, teo, i think why it's become so difficult is wereas before this was being peddled by activists on line,. with anima avotas. They are part of the problem. When you try and describe the cultura as a left versus right issue, you completely misapprehend what's going onis. A problem in all political parties, we can't vote these people out. You can vote in a labor government or tory government, you're still going to get the work. Because if the civil servants, i service, if the machinery of government is grinding in that direction

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