108. Debra Rienstra | The Discipline of Hope
Language of God
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I Am Committed to This. This Is What I Am Going to Do.
"For oist, for us, there is only the trying. The rest is not or business," says t s eliot. "There's just a lot of really great people out there working this problem and exciting things are happening", he adds. 'I don't want to pretend everything is shiny and awesome, but there is blessing in this process too'
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