I think the most about the MEV slash transaction supply chain because I spend most of my time working on flashboards. But it's like you say, right? They are all so closely connected. So there's basically no way to work in MEV and not think about roll ups. And LIDO is, of course, a protocol that is the biggest liquid staking protocol. It will completely crowd out regular staking. The challenges in both are actually, it's not just they are connected but also face very similar structural challenges.

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