The Relationship Between Soul and Body

I've heard you say this relationship we have with them is probably humanity's deepest relationship period. And yet we still don't understand the nature of it, he says. In terms of your own experience, I know you're big on this meditation practice you've been doing since the 70s that you learned from the Gertjiff Foundation in New York. Well, what insights have these techniques and the 30 years given you into the nature of this relationship overall? He says there are no short-term results. There's no aha moment. You have to just do it over and over and over again.