Do You Just Have to Win Elections?

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After last week's technical difficulties, we've combined two recordings that were cut short. First, Saagar and Marshall discuss the NYT's new poll on the realignment of American politics on issues of race, class, and deep dissatisfaction with the status quo. Then, Marshall interviews The Atlantic's Mark Leibovich, author of This Town, a negative portrait of DC during the height of the Obama era, about his new book, Thank You for Your Servitude: Donald Trump's Washington and the Price of Submission.