Navigating the Historical Conflict Between Religion and Science

Dive deeper into the transformative journey with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall as they continue their exploration into faith, meaning, and the power of Dialogos. This second part of their conversation delves into the evolution of Christianity, the limitations of the scientific worldview, and the urgent meta-crisis that beckons a collective awakening. Through a blend of philosophical depth and actionable insight, John and Jordan navigate the realms of relationality, the potential of imaginal engagement, and the intricate pathways toward spiritual and intellectual enrichment. This episode is a testament to the transformative potential of deep, respectful dialogue in uncovering nuanced understandings and fostering growth on both personal and collective levels.

Guest Bio and Links:

Jordan Hall is a technology entrepreneur with several years of experience building disruptive companies. He is interested in philosophy, artificial intelligence, and complex systems and has a background in law. Hall has worked for several technology companies and was the founder and CEO of DivX. He is currently involved in various think tanks and institutes and is focused on upgrading humanity's capacity for thought and action.

Listeners can learn more about Jordan on his YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ his Medium, https://medium.com/deep-code, and on Twitter, @greenhall

Resources:

Join our new Patreon: 

John Vervaeke | Responding to The Meaning Crisis with The Vervaeke Foundation 

The Vervaeke Foundation

Awaken to Meaning

Mentioned Conversations:

Faith in Dialogue: Exploring Christian Virtues in a Diverse World with Jordan Hall Part 1 

The Religion of Tomorrow | Transcendent Naturalism #11 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall 

Practical Eschatology | Transcendent Naturalism #12 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall 

Embodiment and the Metacrisis with Rafe Kelley 

Books, Articles, and Publications:

The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience - Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser, Evan Thompson

The Mind of Whitehead: Adventure in Ideas - Roland Faber 

Depths As Yet Unspoken - Roland Faber, Andrew M Davis 

Hall, J. (2018, November 8). An inquiry concerning science and religion. Medium. 

Quotes: 

"The scientific worldview requires that you step away from the experiment, observe as an objective fact, and then coordinate with other potential subjects on an increasing precision of your ability to articulate facts about objective reality."  - Jordan Hall [00:17:40] 

“Understanding faith as belief is inadequate. Trying to understand what science does as just the propositional manipulation of belief is wrong for all kinds of reasons.” - John Vervaeke [00:46:48]

Glossary of Terms:

Meta-Crisis: The complex, interwoven crises threatening global civilization and human flourishing.

Scientific Worldview: The perspective that emphasizes empirical evidence and rational analysis, often overshadowing subjective and experiential knowledge.

Chapters: 

[00:00:00] - Introduction and Recap of Dialogos

[00:03:15] - Navigating the Meta-Crisis: Beyond the Scientific Worldview

[00:10:40] - Meta-Crisis, Scientific Worldview, and Christianity's Transformation

[00:19:11] - Dissecting First-Person Experience in a Third-Person Dominated Culture

[00:22:38] - The Influence of Simulated Perception and Cartesian Dualism  

[00:32:20] - Bridging Intelligibility, Science, and Spirituality

[00:44:58] - Overcoming Conflicts: Science, Religion, and Propositional Tyranny

[00:59:00] - The Virtue of Humility and the Balance of Finitude and Transcendence 

[01:06:00] - Parental Love: Divine Relations and Agency

[01:22:25] - Humility and Embodiment: Towards Communal Being

[01:32:02] - Conclusion: Friendship and Future Conversations

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