This chapter explores the concept of nuanced trolling as a tactic used in discussions on contentious topics like war and healthcare, where complexity is used to shift the burden of proof onto advocates for change. It discusses the criticisms faced by figures like Jonathan Chate for appearing nuanced without advocating meaningful action, and critiques the tendency to avoid taking decisive action by critiquing concerns over lack of specifics. The conversation also touches on the defense of military interventions in the Middle East and highlights the importance of concrete ideas in political speeches for effective policy-making.

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