i think it's really important that we don't go future skipping into some idea of what future society could look like, because our ideas are totally contaminated by the system that we're in. The only thing that's going to make those future possibilities possible is tending to very minute relationships of the moment. And i just think it's such a beautiful example of what it is to actually be in mutay, mutually responsive complex systems. It sounds so abstract when you put it like that, an peoplebut what are you talking about? We have to have a strategy. We have to know what's going to happen. You let you choose your own ya ya.

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