I like that a lot of it was rooted in the fact that you're part of a team and then it grows. And then there's new requirements and you have the same people or sometimes teams emerge. My question is when you do these sorts of conversations with people, do you find that they do know what they want for the future of their career? I never have myself. But generally speaking, I have learned from a bunch of really good coaches on how to derive motivators.

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