What Is the Best Parameter for a Conversation?

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"This universe is just set up to reward and console you in the end," he says. "It's patently obvious to me that you can't appeal to non-negotiable ancient dogmas for which there is no evidence" The question is, how good could human life be given that that's our situation? And what are the tools by which we can navigate that situation?"

Sam Harris is a neuroscientist, philosopher, author, and the host of the Making Sense podcast. He rose to prominence as a member of the “Four Horsemen” of New Atheism, which also included Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, and Christopher Hitchens.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Sam Harris discuss the intellectual case for atheism; why both left and right have become more extreme in recent years; and the prospects of a more rational politics in the near future.

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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