Are You Calling for Radical Solutions?

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The only now, way to change things is kind of, youkno total overhaul. Verses at the other end talk about some small tweaks and something a bit more kind of technocratic we when i guess, do you see a lot of the solutions you set out in the book landings as radical? "We're not going to tweak our way through this thing," he says. 'They require quite fundamental, fundamentally different thinking'

James Plunkett's new book, End State: 9 Ways Society is Broken, draws on his years working in both public policy and at the top tiers of government. A former advisor to UK prime minister Gordon Brown, his book looks at how to reboot some key ideas ranging from commerce to healthcare for a nation such as the UK in order to provide better quality of life for larger sections of society. James joins urbanist, transport and tech specialist Kat Hanna to talk about the book.

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