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The Importance of Physical Structure in High Performance Habits
CNN's John Defterios met Jason Kuchins, who ran hedge fund Toby from 2013 to 2018. He says he designed the office so that it would promote better performance and healthier employees. "I put a really nice gym in the office. I put a steam shower, I put a sauna, really good equipment"
In this episode, William Green talks with Jason Karp, a prodigiously talented investor & entrepreneur whom he also profiled in his book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier.” Jason founded Tourbillon Capital Partners, where he managed $4.5 billion. He then quit the hedge fund business & created HumanCo, a holding company that invests in the health & wellness sector. Here, he speaks with extraordinary candor about his relentless quest for financial & professional success, & how his obsession with overachievement almost destroyed him.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
04:27 - How Jason Karp switched from underachiever to “hyper-neurotic overachiever.”
09:32 - How his obsession with productivity devastated his health.
25:01 - How he transformed his health, healing diseases that seemed incurable.
35:34 - What he learned about how to eat well for health & longevity.
53:13 - Why it’s helpful to “confuse your body” with random stressors.
54:32 - How the best investors succeed by deferring gratification.
1:09:17 - How Jason simplifies his life to reduce the impact of “decision fatigue.”
1:13:37 - How he designed his hedge fund’s offices to promote productivity & good health.
1:25:08 - What’s helped him most in dealing with his mental health challenges.
1:25:25 - How he came to be suicidally depressed at the pinnacle of his investment career.
1:28:24 - How he thinks about money, family, happiness, & fulfillment.
1:29:24 - Why founding a health & wellness conglomerate brought him a new level of joy.
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