"When somebody's as good as you are at their craft, you don't expect them to turn the notch that way," he says. "I would always think the crowd was maybe uncomfortable, but then my friend Matt McCarthy was just great." He adds: "Once you venture into the real shit, I get a real vulnerability hangover after I do it"
Bill Lawrence (creator of Scrubs, Ted Lasso, Spin City and more!) makes it weird!
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