Complexities of Minority Voter Dynamics

In this insightful episode, we explore the evolving political affiliations among ethnic minorities, focusing on Black, Arab, and Hispanic voter groups. From the increasing support for the Republican Party among Black and Hispanic voters to the influence of fiscal conservatism and social policies, we unpack the reasons behind these shifts. We also touch on media portrayals, self-empowerment, and economic aspirations influencing these communities. Additionally, the discussion covers Kamala Harris' policies towards Black entrepreneurs, her controversial political moves, and how these developments shape the future of U.S. politics. Join us as we delve into these critical voter trends and their significant impact on the American political landscape.

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Simone Collins: Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about a phenomenon this election cycle where Ethnic minorities have been moving very quickly more and more to voting Republican in the changeover from the Biden running for office to the Kamala running for office, which is really interesting to me because I think a lot of people would assume, Oh, now we've got a, you know, a multiracial, a black Indian woman who's, yeah, yeah.

for office. Like obviously she'll get more like Obama did more of the black vote to show up than historically did. And in yet we are seeing the exact opposite and not just the black vote, but basically across the board.

Speaker: Wasn't that the turn for our polling station?

Speaker 2: we know A, , shorter route to your, to our Democratic polling station. You know how us Democrats like a shortcut, like government spending to prop up the economy. Nothing more we love than those, , federal programs. You two

Speaker: are [00:01:00] Democrats, aren't you?

What? .

Speaker 2: Of course we are. You see the color of our skin, don't you? How could we not? Blindly vote democratic.

Would you like to know more?

Simone Collins: So we are one going to go over the numbers for each ethnic group. We're going to go over what might be causing this, and we are going to go over what this means for the future of American politics.

That is so cool. Let's do this.

So in the 2020 election, Biden won approximately 92 percent of the black vote. Only 8 percent of the black vote didn't vote for Biden.

That's insane. That, that is very impressive.

Yeah. Current polling shows Kamala leading Trump 78 percent to 15 percent among black voters.

Huge difference. Um, 26 percent of black men aged 18 to 40 said they would vote for Trump in the latest gen forward poll compared to 12 percent of black women in the same age group. This represents a major shift from 2020. And if you look at the polls that I sent you, [00:02:00] so this is mostly happening in young Black men, we see a really interesting phenomenon,

Speaker 4: Sir. Now people think that black voters are a monolith.

No, we're not.

Speaker 5: In fact, black Republicans alone are an extremely diverse group of people.

Simone Collins: Which is that with Black voters, unlike pretty much any other voter demographic you're going to look at, the younger they are, And it's proportional to their age, the more pro Republican they are.

And it is increasing with each generation here. So here we can look at two different polls. One is looking at different age groups. And it asks them, please assess your feelings towards Donald Trump on a scale from 0 to 10, where 0 is cold and 10 is very warm. And you see of the very warm category if you look at black voters over 65, it's only 4%.

If you look at black voters, 18 to 29, it's [00:03:00] 29%. What is going on? And just so people can get an idea of what this looks like in sort of a tiered way. It's 4% for the 65 plus to the 45, 64, it's 10%. For the 30 44, it's 19%. And then, you know, for the last group it's 29%. And you see the same thing in terms of the number who feel neutral to him.

It's significantly increasing over time. With the young age group, it's. 41 percent feel neutral to him only 7 percent in the oldest age group and in the youngest age group only 20, only 28 percent have a cold opinion of him, while 87 percent of the oldest age group do. Isn't that wild? And this is increasing still with every generation, so I would expect it to be more the next generation, more the next generation, more the next generation.

Yeah, which

is tempered, I guess, by young voter turnout [00:04:00] being lower. Yeah. But that, that's still very impressive.

Well, it does mean a permanent political shift. And, let's go to this next poll here. How welcoming, how welcoming do you think the Republican Party is to Black people? And again, you have the exact same thing.

If you're looking at not welcoming at all, it's 57 percent of the 65 plus group, but of the under 29 group, that's only 17 percent who have that perception. And if you look at the extremely welcoming category, 3 percent of the over 65 group, 11 percent of the 18 to 29 group.

Wow.

That's great. Yeah, well, and if you look at somewhat welcoming in the old age group, it's only 7 percent In the young age group, it's 31%.

Well, I mean, is this part of the whole youth political divide between women and men, whereby men are just getting increasingly conservative and women are getting conservative? And is it, could it be that women to a certain extent are even just [00:05:00] shoving men into a more conservative position through their mental and cultural toxicity?

I think it is. So I watched a bunch of interviews with black individuals on why they're voting for Trump. So I could say, you know, from my perception, I'd say, well, I assume that the racist way that Democrats keep talking about ethnic minorities is probably a pretty big play here. Like when. Hope not hate was talking to us.

They go, you say you support exceptional people having more kids in secret, but on your website, you say you support Hispanics having more kids. And I was like, I don't see a contradiction there. Why do you see a contradiction there? Or Obama's recent thing when black voters He goes, he's like, well, we have a huge problem with young male black voters and it's because they won't vote for a woman.

You know, they're very misogynistic. And I was like, that seems like a very racist opinion and not at all what I've seen anyone say. And so I think part of it is this [00:06:00] increasingly racist attitude that, you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Like this stealing of the black identity. And then. Removing anyone, like imagine you felt that way.

Like people said to you, you couldn't identify as whatever your core, like ethic or whatever identity was because you didn't hold ex political positions, which is what they're always saying. Like whenever, you know, there's a famous black Republican or something like that. They're like, well, they don't really count as black culturally speaking.

Here's what's so interesting though, is that I'm picking up on this for another episode right now I'm trying to do research on. What black lives matter as an organization raised and what they did with that money and one of the things that I'm seeing they did in 2020 sort of at their height when they got the most attention was create a pack and try to influence the vote and they decided that one of the most important areas where they needed to exert pressure was on black male voters.

Because they felt that they had the lowest turnout and the lowest [00:07:00] engagement. So their work really focused on engaging them and getting them to vote. But I feel like this very fact that there is this perception and I guess, acknowledgement of lower black male voter engagement for obviously Democratic voters.

Candidates and causes maybe kind of indicates like, guys, maybe they aren't really on your side. Like, maybe they're not really Democrats. Maybe that you're something you're, you're pitching to them isn't resonating. Maybe this whole, like, you know, trans free housing thing and like community work thing isn't really a game.

What they're into right now. Well, so

historically, when older black voters would vote Republican, the thing that drove them to do it was two things. One is, is it, it didn't feel like the policies were actually supporting the black community. You know, this is what you have was like clarence Thomas, , and you know, he's very anti things like affirmative action because he felt it hurt the black community, right? And a lot of older [00:08:00] blacks would side with Republicans sometimes because they agreed with them on social issues.

Whether it was, you know, Being more resistant to LGBT stuff whether it was which the black community is generally not very pro when contrasted with white voters whether it was being more conservative on abortion whether it was being more conservative It was on social issues What's very interesting is the shift in the black community now among young blacks to being more republican is not about Being more conservative on social issues.

It appears to be predominantly Two fold One, or I'd say threefold. One, they feel like we've been trying this Democrat thing forever. They don't actually seem to care about us. They never actually seem to do anything for us. And it appears that the Republicans actually try when they get in office for us.

And so that was one thing. The, the second thing was they appear to be more fiscally conservative than previous generations. And I'll run through some quotes here that seem to [00:09:00] indicate this to me, but it appears that they're mostly voting. For Republicans, despite more conservative social policies, because they do not believe in what the Democrats have done to the economy or what the Democrats have given them opportunities.

And then the, the final category here that we see is They are voting more Republican because I can't remember the final point I had, but you were going to say

something? Well, I think the thing is that black men aren't interested in being someone's b***h. They're interested in succeeding and excelling and being exceptional.

And the problem is that even now, As a Democrat parties trying to cater to their interests. They're like, Oh, don't worry. We'll give you handouts and special treatment and you'll be, you know, it's okay. You know, just like, but they're being very condescending. And I think. That's not, that's not how these people are done.

Like these are, these are people who want yeah, they, they want to start businesses. [00:10:00] And I think that, that, you know, there's some attempt to cater to that, but they're like, Oh, you know, we'll give you loans that will forgive. Cause we know you can't pay them. Off like, it's just so insulting. It is deeply insulting.

Like I agree. So like crypto, don't worry, we'll support it. Whereas like over here, Donald Trump's like, here's my mean, cool. I'm like, I'm going to like pump and dump it. No, it's like, yeah, Trump, you do you, you know, like there's just a very different, Trump gets it also. Like when I look at Like a lot of.

really popular like primarily black cast TV shows, or like, I guess you could say like black demographic targeting targeted TV shows. I guess like some of them are like looking at, at, at lower economic rungs to society, but a lot of them are just looking at extreme levels of wealth. Like it's aspirational.

And I think the other problem is that when the Democrat party party caters to black voters. They're all about like, oh, poverty. And that's not aspirational. Like no one wants to vote for that. And a lot of people [00:11:00] complain about, oh, well, you know, poor uneducated people vote for Republicans and vote for low taxes because they expect to be rich someday.

How pathetic. But I think that's where a lot of us are.

The Biden gaffe where he's like, well, I want this policy to work for both rich people and black people. Come on! He did not! Oh my Yeah, that was one of his gasps.

Speaker 6: We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.

Simone Collins: That's what a slip! I mean, that just shows, like, how they see. How they see. And I think this goes back to our episode on how the like leftists and Democrats in America decided suddenly to hijack black identity and be like, black identity is now victim identity.

And we're going to save you and we're going to take care of you. Whereas black identity before it was enterprising, it was wealthy. And yes, it was often subject to insane bias. and riots and their whole communities being burnt down. But why [00:12:00] were their communities being burnt down? Because white people were jealous of their economic flourishing.

Okay, that's what happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And this whole, this whole concept of black people are poor, black people can't pay back their loans, black people need social handouts is so deeply insulting. And I think that there's this, this undercurrent. Especially among black men who get it, who are not buying into that narrative who are like,

yeah, like, screw that.

Let's, let's read some quotes from various black people here when they were being asked, why are they voting for Trump? And I think what you'll see is we, here's one, right? We want prosperity and we want secure borders and we want the American dream. Maxwell said, and only the Republican party is speaking to this message because they have the policies in terms of limited government drill, baby drill.

And, and very, I mean, that's.

Someone who's speaking as an American. And I think that's the other thing is that it's, it's someone who's not captured by identity politics, which is refreshing.

Well, very interesting. The drill baby [00:13:00] drills slogan seems to be really popular among black conservatives. I haven't heard any white conservative use this slogan, this election cycle.

I heard it multiple times when I was watching videos of black conservatives of speaking on the issues that they cared

about. Drill baby drill. I like see Sarah Palin. I don't like that. I think what

it speaks to is this idea that regulations are keeping their communities in poverty and that if you just went out and, and did like exploit our environment for resources, people would have jobs again.

Then another one well, and what a lot of them were saying is I can't afford to another thing that a lot of them were saying when they were being interviewed is basically I can't afford another four years of this. Like that is not realistic at all. But here's another one. Now, this is somebody who.

is a 20 year old who is voting for Democrats, but she was noticing that a lot of her friends are voting for Republicans. And so in explaining, even as an uncharitable [00:14:00] person, why her friends are voting for Republicans, she says, the thing that I hear a lot of is if a person is really conservative, they really like the president.

How the economics are handled by Republicans, usually with social issues, they tend to be more liberal, at least like my friends who maybe are in the middle or leaning conservative, they'll be more liberal on social issues and more conservative with economics. Which is an inverse of the reason why Blacks flipped parties before.

And I find that to be very, very interesting. That's fascinating. I think it does come down to what you're saying here, which is the self empowerment thing. But now, let's talk about other ethnic groups, because it is across the board here. Yeah,

so, Rainy Center, which we're a fan of. Had the biggest surprise for me on the front of other demographics when they came out and September of this year with survey data indicating that 30 percent of Muslims in America.

Planned on voting for trump.

Oh, then the numbers have changed since then. I haven't gotten to those numbers yet. But actually now in [00:15:00] 2020 biden won arab americans by a 24 point margin current polling shows trump having tied with harris among arab americans. It's both 40

Wow, okay. So it's wow that's and so that's good one thing that I hear Savvy political commentators talk about a lot is it doesn't you don't learn a whole lot by seeing what the static poll numbers are What matters more is what direction are things going in and if that's happening what is going on?

That's a

huge shift No, we're gonna now simone Actually before we go further you had some stuff you wanted to talk about with the black lives matter Thing like nobody watched their video or like they didn't have that much cultural reach Yeah, I think

Well, I just, I need to get to the bottom of this more.

This is for research. I'm doing that, that other Black Lives Matter episode, but one of the big things when they. Raised a ton of money in 2020 was, Oh my gosh, there's an election this year. We have to change the outcome of the election. We're going to raise money for a super PAC. And in addition [00:16:00] to trying to increase black male voter turnout and engagement, they, they commissioned a TV commercial, which they ran apparently they paid to run ads on it.

On social media, in addition to on TV, but then I checked their YouTube channel, which has all of 6 subscribers. And it has 1. 1 K views. And I'm like, how is this even happening? I mean, I watched the video and it just,

I sometimes wonder if that movement wasn't more astroturfed than the public believes.

Yeah,

there's, there's a lot I want to dig into there for sure. I mean, they regranted a lot, so I don't blame them for not necessarily doing a ton internally with their own program, like fundraising, but they raised a lot for their pack and they raised in 2020 over 90 million. And 23 percent of their assets, which is a lot for the industry, which typically regrants about 5 to 8%.

I think probably because they normally do stuff in house, but yeah, even [00:17:00] having raised 90 million and regranted 23%, you would expect them to do more. And. Well, didn't they just spend it all on mansions? Okay. So like a lot of that happened and we'll get to that in the episode. But what I was surprised with was just like the work they were doing.

They did get some admirable door knocking volunteer turnout. And I think that's because there was so much energy in 2020 of people just saying, I want to do something. Like, I am really frustrated with the way that black Americans experience America right now. I'm not happy with it. And so they got a lot of help there, but I was surprised by how flat their, their ad felt.

Just how flat it fell and, and how little engagement they seem to be getting.

Interesting. Oh, okay. Now, by the way, to the Arab American things that we were talking about, how did it go? From winning with a 24 point margin to equal votes. Well, yeah,

and apparently from 30 percent now to 40%. This is, you know, things are changing.

[00:18:00] So the

first thing appears to be that they are very, very dissatisfied with how the Israeli Palestine issue is being handled by the Biden administration. And they don't think that Harris has significantly distanced her stance from the administration. Yeah. And it's, it's for, for 29 percent of them, it's the primary issue.

Now, I think a lot of people are surprised then that they would move to Trump, who might be seen as being even more pro Israel than the Biden administration. Right. But I think it's because they believe that Trump can actually get things done. In terms of creating some kind of a peaceful resolution because he's actually willing to try and do stuff.

Also, like, look at how Trump is super chill and bro y with a lot of, like, Different islamic and yeah, he's

very good at dealing with muslim individuals. Yeah, he's he's

like he's he's super persian and has aesthetic. So I don't know. I kind of feel there. I have I'm of two minds. One is Okay, there's Israel and he's, he's, he's down with Israel, right?

But also he got more done in terms of [00:19:00] Middle Eastern peace relations working in concert. You know

why I think he does so well with that audience. And I think it's something that a lot of people are discounting when they see Trump is that he, when he meets with these Arab Kings often who have all this money and all these fancy palaces and all these cool gadgets.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: Is genuinely impressed. He loves that sort of stuff and gets excited about it.

Malcolm Collins: And for

Simone Collins: these types of individuals, that is the highest compliment they can get to be showing the U S president around. And the U S president is giddy at every new stupid gadget. They show him. Every new, are you picturing the

Malcolm Collins: globe, the globe image

Simone Collins: globe where he's like,

Oh, this is so cool.

You're all touching it. I feel like they're just all having this moment where they're like, guys, let's take a group picture. You can just see they're like girls at a sleepover. It's amazing.

Yeah. And I don't think that that's something that Biden [00:20:00] or Kamala has been able to connect with them on because they're too.

Reserved and trying to play whatever 4d game.

No, it's not even that they're like They're they're they're prejudiced. They're elitist. They're I don't know like racist or ff What's the ethnic version of racist or like cultural version of racist, but they kind of cultural supremacist. They they Like these people

are lesser than me

my like anglo waspie background and yes I am calling kamala more anglo waspie because she she grew up in freaking berkeley like yeah, he's a white npr listening You Like she might as well be in a white NPR listening reform Jew.

I don't know how else to put it, but like, that's kind of the look, you know, of like that Bay Area, Berkeley kind of person. And those people go to places like the Middle East and they look down upon those cultures and Trump goes there and he's like, God, I wish we could do that here. Like, man, you guys pull it out.

He

said that once or something and everyone's like, what? You can't say that. Yeah,

so that is one thing. I think the other [00:21:00] thing though, and this is something that I'm seeing as a candidate for state rep on a more local level is that there are some people who are so vehemently passionate about an image, an issue that if they feel like the person who should be their ally is not fully 100 percent in conforming in conformity with their desires that they will vote for the other person out of spite.

So on the position, for example, of abortion. The fact that I have this middle ground means that out of spite, some Republicans who are very, very, very anti abortion are going to vote for my Democratic opponent who is even more pro abortion than I

the restrict abortion access.

Yes. It's not as much as they want.

Yes. So because I'm not as restrictive as they want me to be, they're going to vote for my opponent out of spite. Yes. My opponent, who is not in favor of more restrictions, whereas I am, and I think that that might be the other thing [00:22:00] that's going on, is just the fact that the would be Palestinian ally is not sufficiently saying that we have to, you know, from the river to the sea, and she's not saying this every time she stands in front of an audience after giving her land acknowledgements, that that means That they're not going to vote for her.

I, that honestly, it's the weirdest thing. It does not make any sense, but I do think that it is happening because I am seeing it myself.

Yeah, I could a hundred percent see that. I will know when people are like, how pro Israel is Trump. If you forgot when I was in Israel, the last time I was there, it was during the Trump administration.

And there were all these threats because Trump had moved the US embassy back into Jerusalem. Jerusalem, right? Yeah. And everyone was like, Oh my God, you can't do that. Like we were supposed to have removed our embassy. He's like, no, I'm going to do it. Build an embassy. And Kushner

got more done in the, in the Middle East than

anyone, anyone, everyone knows they were incredibly successful there.

So, and then the, the, to understand how much Israel loves [00:23:00] Trump. I remember when I'd walk around the city at night there were big like skyscrapers that had Trump's face projected on them. That was how, how in love Israel was with Trump during at least the period when I was walking around there.

Wow. So they are, Trump likes them and they like him and yet the Middle Easterners are like, yeah, I just won't. I also think the other thing that you mentioned there, and I've mentioned this before, I think culturally he connects with them. A lot of the Arab Americans are like Persian Arab Americans and Persians are like Trump culturally is much more Persian than he is waspy.

He's not even a yeah, I mean,

he's only waspy and so far as he wears like American flag

colored if you look at if you look at like his house Like it would be considered garish by most like waspy americans the only houses i've ever seen look like that are either maybe Persian Americans maybe Armenian Americans, but mostly it's like [00:24:00] more Persian y.

But again, similar regions there. All right. So next group we're going to be talking about here the Hispanic American voter.

So

these individuals in 2020, Biden won about 63 percent of Hispanic voters. By the way, I don't think Which is

surprising to me. In 2020, I would expect fewer because so many of our Hispanic friends were like really, really, really angry about the democratic party's treatment of many Latino neighborhoods during all the protests.

That's not that much. 63 percent of the Hispanic vote.

Come on. That's still too much.

They act like it's a locked down thing. That's almost. And now where are we? Kamala is leading. Trump was. 56%.

Okay. So again, that, that direction directionality is, is definitely in favor of Republican part parties.

And, and 44% of Latino men, 18 to 40 said they would vote for Trump up from 38% in 2020.

So you're seeing it a, a dramatic rise here. And Pew Research Center found that [00:25:00] Trump gained 10 percentage points among Hispanic voters from 2016 to 2020. So it's a continuing trend as well. So when we're going from 2020 to 2024 that to me is, I think, the biggest thing. And that's how Florida, if anyone's been looking at like maps recently of like where states are likely to go.

That's why Florida's not a swing state anymore.

Malcolm Collins: Florida became

Simone Collins: a solid red state because the Hispanic vote moved to a split. As to why it moved to a split, again, this is the ethnic community that we are closest with, which is why I was most offended by the Hope Not Hate's incredibly racist accusation that there's no exceptional Hispanic people.

But I cannot believe. But anyways, yeah, we're very close with hispanic people in hispanic culture and they engage with information. I've mentioned this before, so I'll be fairly quick about it. Very different from other cultural groups in America. Meaning they mostly exchange information through family networks and not through like news sites and stuff like that.

That they'll see with more [00:26:00] suspicion. A lot of hispanic individuals are business owners, and it was their businesses that were disproportionately torched during the BLM riots because they were the ones on the outskirts of those black communities. And when the government, when the Democrats did nothing, when they didn't denounce the riots, when they didn't When they, you know, like, Tim Waltz's wife who opened the window to smell the businesses burning during the BLM riots, those were mostly Hispanic minority owned businesses that were burning that she wasn't going to smell.

You're also missing a really, or I think we should address a really key issue as well, which is a very hot topic in the United States and so many other nations right now, immigration. And I think. A lot of Democrats are like, well, of course Hispanics want open borders. No, they don't. They, you know, those who immigrated or first generation immigrants went through so much s**t to get into the country.

They busted their asses. They paid thousands and thousands of dollars to immigration lawyers. [00:27:00] They spent years on wait lists. They went through tons of bureaucratic hoops and suddenly all these people are coming through this porous border and getting a like random support and get out of jail free cards.

They're pissed. It's not just

that, but Hispanics don't see themselves like if you actually are friends with real Hispanics and not this insane, like if you're not going to say something offensive like Latin X, which of course is usually offensive to most Hispanic communities. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You would know that Hispanics don't see themselves as a unified ethnic group.

They see themselves as you know, as Mexican or as Brazilian or as Peruvian or as Costa Rican. And many of these groups have an incredible amount of, I don't know, of racism is the right word, but a degree of prejudice against other Hispanic groups. You know, a, a me Hispanic, Mexican, for example, is going to often think very disparagingly about for example, maybe a, a [00:28:00] Venezuelan immigrant or something like that, right?

And so when Democrats think because they are supporting immigration, that they are earning good will across the Hispanic community, they're just wrong about that. You look next, certainly treat with

a monolith. Yeah. Well, and also like treating. You know, first generation, second generation and third generation immigrants from Central or South America as though they're the same as like potential refugees or something who are coming into the, it's just, it's insane.

It's unhinged and I think it would, it would majorly piss me off. I can understand why it would alienate many other voters. That said, we do have. Plenty of like broadly Latin American friends who are huge supporters of Kamala Harris. So it's

not, you know, what's interesting to me is when they are supporters of Kamala Harris, they are not supporters of her.

In the, I support her because she supports immigration way. They're supporters of [00:29:00] her. We sell travel to various ethnic groups and we have a lot of travel sales in Latin America. One of the things that sells very well to the Latin American audience, I'd say is. The cliche beach Instagram picture vacation which is the vacation that gets you on a nice looking beach where you can take Instagram pictures with pretty ladies and post that.

And this to me as a vacation is mortified. This style of vacation does not sell well, often within white ethnic groups, unless you're talking like college kids or something. I think that their support of Kamala makes, feels very much to me like the classic beach vacation package. Because it's like, what you're supposed to support if you're like a you know, I don't know.

Yeah, if you're a good, cool person on your social media. Just basically saying

anyone who's basic or who's more conformist in broad America mainstream media culture is [00:30:00] probably going to be more. Yeah, because, because you are evil per mainstream American culture. Actually, I would argue the trend that I see more commonly is just culturally if you're a more empathetic person.

That is to say that, you know, things pull at your heartstrings more. You, you are more likely to vote for Kamala and have a really difficult time stomaching Trump.

I, I think that there is a portion of the Hispanic community that is aspirationally basic. And I think that that is where the Dems have the best.

You're

going to say that the live, laugh, love Latinos are voting for

live, laugh, love Latinos. That is the category. Voting for Kamala. Well, no, I mean, among especially Latino women, that's a big category. It's not like, a small group. But basically over time I expect some degree of democrat erosion within the Latino community However, I think something that's really important to remember, if you look at the El Norte cultural region of the U S which [00:31:00] is the high immigrant cultural region, it's actually the key voter base of the current democratic party, not the Northeast, as many people assume.

If you look at voting patterns in the same way that the greater Appalachia is a key voter base of Trump.

And I think that, and not in the deep South, like many people presume. And I think that. We will, you know, previously I was like before I looked at the catholic statistics, I was like, I think that we will eventually convert the hispanic population to being more conservative leaning now.

I no longer think that if you look at the percent catholic of a district in the United States, that. Is one of the highest correlates we have found to how likely they are to be democratic voting. Catholic, they're just very democratic voting. It's sort of like the party of Catholics. And so, so long as they stay Catholic, I don't think we're going to be able to ever really flip those districts that they're disproportionately immigrating into.

That said, we have seen a lot of conversions to Protestantism was in the first generation [00:32:00] Latin American community.

Really? I.

Yeah, it's been a huge thing in the data. Yeah, huge. They're converting. I think it's like the number one source of new evangelicals.

Catholic

Church, get your act together. Well, it's, it's the fun side.

It's like, in Madagascar.

Catholicism can be fun. Catholicism can be so fun. You get to sin and then just confess. You know what I mean? Like, come on.

All right. So next group, Asian Americans in 2020, 54 percent of Asian American voters intended to vote for Joe Biden. Well, in 2024, 46 percent said they were inclined to vote for Harris.

Malcolm Collins: So you had about

Simone Collins: a 10 percent loss, 8 percentage point decrease. Emerging. Biden won Asian American voters by a margin of 72 to 28 percent current polling shows Harris at 66 to 28%. So just huge loss across the [00:33:00] board in every ethnic group. And I think that there's different reasons for each group, but I think that we will continue to see this shift as time goes on.

I think the one, the one place where Harris is incredibly strong. Is just white women and well, I think

love is the only community that she's and

they are very conscientious voter base. So I think that it's not, it wouldn't be a bad one to have in the bag, but even when I look, for example at the Kamala Harris opportunity agenda for black men.

When I reviewed that again, I'm like, this isn't, this isn't for black men. This is for white women. Tell me

what it is. What did, what did they offer?

So the, the opportunity agenda for black men is a policy initiative aimed at addressing economic and social challenges faced by black men in the United States.

Just that framing [00:34:00] alone, like in the sort of premise of presenting this is emasculating and insulting to black men in America. Like you need extra help. Don't you? But I think it's really there for dealing. So in terms of economic empowerment, and this is also where it just gets so ridiculous and insulting it, the, the agenda proposes to provide up to 1, 000, 000 forgivable loans up to 20, 000 each for black entrepreneurs who have, you know, historically, I

love the dims that are like, Elon Musk is giving out money to people like this is a, you can't do that.

And meanwhile, Kamala Harris is like, yeah, I'm going to give out money if I win. Well,

I mean, but legal experts argue that policies distributing, distributing resources based on race could face significant constitutional challenges and, and programs that provide preferences based on race have been struck down in court previously, like disaster release programs, relief programs.

So the problem here too, and I think any, like, if I were black, [00:35:00] business owner who could potentially benefit from one of these loans. I'd be like, okay, great. But you're just going to waste my time on a loan application. That's going to take forever to process. And then it's going to be rejected and seen as constitutionally illegitimate because it is.

Like, you can't just give away a whole bunch of money to a group based on their racial identity. That's insane.

This was actually really interesting when I heard some black people explaining why they're not going to vote for Kamala, they were really annoyed by her plan to give out like free money for housing.

That like their first, first time homeowners, they were like, okay, either this just isn't going to happen. And even if it does happen, how is this fair? Like, So what this

is, is you're referring to the element of this initiative where by the administration would offer 25, 000 in down payment assistance to first time home buyers.

Yeah. They're like, we've heard this lie before. And even [00:36:00] if it goes through, I own my home. What about me? Are they going to give me 20,

Yeah. It's kind of like student loan forgiveness. We're like, Oh, so I, I paid off my student loan. F**k me, I guess. Like, sorry for being conscientious. It just sends so many bad messages.

It's

like, it's sort of, it's like, we're a party that helps parasites. If you live your life as parasitically as possible, then we will benefit you more.

But I also, I just, I feel like it's really insulting and, and I don't know, like a common element that I see among. Like, it just will stay like black characters in media who I see receiving widespread admiration is that these are proud, very strong, very competent people and this image of black men that is being painted by the Harris administration.

Is of needy, incompetent

victims. What the hell? In Obama, it's like savage [00:37:00] men who can like barely contain Yeah, insecure,

like backwards, savage, incompetent victims. Like just the worst, but it's

like when the FAA said, well, we need to hire black, more, more black people, but we can't explicitly do it. So we'll just put on tests that will hire people who have problems with authority.

Hate science was their least favorite class in school. And don't take directions. Well, it's like,

Malcolm Collins: yeah,

Simone Collins: they literally think of black people in these racial stereotypes.

Well, yeah. Also, I mean, back to the, the, the agenda that people have. Part of that, that specific agenda for black men, not just for Americans, but for black men specifically is proposing a legalization of marijuana at the federal level because, you know, weed's a black person thing.

Like, there's just, there's so

many things that are wrong when BLM was like, Oh, well, don't, you know, that. We need to support the dissolution of the [00:38:00] nuclear family because that's a black person thing. And then we point out that if you go to the 1960s black families actually had much stronger marriage relationships.

You can watch our black episode on this. And actually had black women were less than half as likely as white women to be out of wedlock. And they had children out of wedlock at less than half the rate of white people. Now it's, what is it, 70 percent of black kids are born out of wedlock, I think, at this point.

But it used to be less than half the white rate. Although, how

many, I mean, I feel like across all demographics, more kids are born out of wedlock these days.

Yeah, they are, but now it's much more in the black community.

No, I, honestly, if someone told me that was the same with white populations, I wouldn't be remotely surprised.

It's

not. I mean, look

at Sweden. I mean, no one gets

married anymore. Well, that's a different cultural structure. It's not that they don't have two parents, it's that people just choose to live together and they don't do the official marriage ceremony.

Oh, that doesn't mean that black, [00:39:00] that black families that are having kids.

In America right now many black children are being raised not knowing who their fathers are. Like that's a totally different phenomenon.

Okay. That, that is different. But yeah, I just, I did, I just, wow. How, how can all of this hold and how can, how can black men not be overwhelmingly like at least not for Kamala Harris.

I, I just, even if I wanted handouts, I would be so dubious of the likelihood of these handouts coming to me. That I, I would be deeply concerned just doesn't seem like. Well, I

think that's the way a lot of the community feels. They just don't trust Democrats anymore.

Well, and yet, and yet still, I mean, isn't it that the majority of, of black voters, broadly speaking, plan on voting.

Right, but it keeps

changing. Yeah. It's changing, and I wouldn't be, and I think it's very interesting that Kamala was the one who initiated this change, a presumably [00:40:00] the person who at least identifies as a black American.

I don't know, Trump has argued that she didn't identify as a black American until it was expedient.

And before that, maybe she was Indian, maybe she was mixed race or whatever, but I don't blame her for that. If I had multiple potential. Racial backgrounds that I could identify with. I would chameleon my way around the world too. Like,

yeah, it benefited me. But then, you know, I, I do think that he is accurate in that attack of her and Democrats would be like, Oh, how dare he do that?

I'm like, yeah, but like when they were like shocked that he called her the DEI candidate,

but he like literally was, because I think at some point during his candidacy for, President Biden had said, I promise I will choose. It was like either like a, a, a, like non white vice president. Yeah. He applied to have a DEI candidate and then he got one.

And now it's like, Oh, but how dare you say that? [00:41:00] That's

Malcolm Collins: what it is. Cause

Simone Collins: it's the DEI candidate. Yeah. And I'd also note here that, I mean, she never won any major election. Like when in the primaries, when the Biden season, she was doing super poorly.

I don't think she made it to Iowa. Yeah. Which is the

default candidate is insane.

And you know, obviously the final thing, and we've mentioned this before, but it's worse if you don't know this, you know, she did jail, a bunch of innocent black people thousands, literally during her tenure, she didn't release them when they were supposed to be released in order to win an election.

She used them for free labor when it would have been cheaper to pay them. She's just everything that black lives matter said. It was campaigning against. She has called herself the top cop of California. And, and when she says that she means in the corrupt, slimy racist way. But anyway, you can watch our camel as video for more on that.

I hope you have a wonderful night, Simone.

Malcolm Collins: And,

Simone Collins: I'm so disappointed. [00:42:00] There's a Elon Trump rally right next to our house tonight. And

tonight

it's Tuesday, right?

I don't know. I don't even know if it's happening anymore. I haven't seen it. It's not

happening because I haven't figured out how to sign up for it.

And that's kind of surprising to me.

I don't think it's, I can't find news coverage of it anymore. I feel like things were taken down and it was canceled. So don't worry about it.

All right. Well, for tonight, I really love those taquitos you made yesterday. Can you make more of something like that?

There were leftover ones of that.

Oh, you don't want leftovers. I can do leftover taquitos with pumpkin ravioli and pesto.

Oh yeah. Do you need to eat some pumpkin ravioli and pesto? Yeah, that works for me.

Because then if you don't like the taquitos, there's pumpkin ravioli and pesto. Gotta

like the taquitos. You're going to use the air fryer, which will make them extra crispy, right?

Yeah, and I might like sprinkle a little more butter on top of or something or maybe do you want me to put cheddar cheese on top? No, that makes them soggy. I don't know.

No, I actually do want I was actually thinking they need cheese Okay, so some

[00:43:00] melted cheddar cheese on top. Yeah

melted cheddar cheese. I don't want to eat it How many how many do we have left

three?

Yeah, that's a full meal Give me the three melted cheddar cheese on top

and then no pumpkin ravioli

No pumpkin ravioli. We'll do that tomorrow.

Okay.

Oh not cheddar cheese. American cheese. Okay, cheddar cheese.

I mean, I, I'm, like, we can do American cheese for, like, grilled cheese. Like, there are places for it.

This is not, this is not the place. You don't want gelatin. You don't put gelatin on top of taquitos. Can

you, are they, are they in a way where you couldn't put anything else inside them?

Yeah, they're, they're like melded together.

Okay, great. I know I was thinking about the scallions, scallions. Yeah.

Putting it, putting some, no scallions, what are those shallots, shallots. I

can chop up the shallots, shine, finely, put them in a dipping dish and you can dip.[00:44:00]

I don't know.

Maybe. Do

you want me to take it

out? I think it's fine the way it is, but the cheddar is a good idea.

We'll do that. And I love you.

I love you too, Simone. You are a great wife. And if you wanted to give me something a little extra some tomato soup.

Oh, that's good because we did open it and oh, you can dip it.

Taquitos with penang. She's

taquitos with penang and pumpkin dipped in

Yeah, she makes it with a pumpkin puree and then it's a slow cooked meat mix made with penang.

What kind of fusion is that? You got your, you got your American Mexican with tequila. Oh, new

Americana. I, I, if I ever am president, I'm going to mess with the chefs at the White House so much.

You got your indigenous America with pumpkin. You've got, where's tomato soup come from? I don't know. France? It comes from the 1950s. I feel like it's [00:45:00] French. And then you've got cheddar cheese, which is from the cheddar gorge. Which we visited. Yes. We've visited a fine place in England.

Malcolm Collins: It's Somerset. All right.

I love you Simone. Have a good day. Gorgeous. Take care. I hope you enjoyed our conversation today. I

Simone Collins: did

Malcolm Collins: though.

Simone Collins: Well you get the kids when it, when the time comes. Thank you. All right. Love you. Did did you send Octavian to school wearing a key, like a lanyard today?

Malcolm Collins: I might have.

Simone Collins: Because apparently he identified on the school yard attempting to choke children with it upon not being given the toy that he wanted them to share.

That's the great thing about public school. You can't be kicked out.

Give it time, Malcolm. I'm receiving calls at this point. [00:46:00] His teacher's like, he understands that he needs to ask to share things and to encourage people to share, but if they proceed to not share with him, he will use force. He punches, he kicks, and most recently he chokes with lanyards.

So.

That's delightful.

Malcolm Collins: God

Simone Collins: bless you, man. He fights for what he wants. Yeah. That's why we recently showed him the original Mortal Kombat. So that he and his brother, because he and his brother wanted to fight. And I was like, Oh my gosh. What could possibly go wrong? There's this movie you guys have to see.

It defined my childhood.

Yeah, now he's going from punching and kicking to I guess, like, windmill punching and

Malcolm Collins: sideways leap kicking. That's the goal of sharing this stuff with them. I remember there

Simone Collins: was something else that I wanted to, Oh yeah, well, The Guardian's coming tomorrow, and I love that we [00:47:00] still take The Guardian.

The Guardian. Reporters at our house after the ump team's hit piece. I wonder what this one's got I really hope it's a follow up to the hope not hate stuff because that could be

that's well She reached out to us immediately after that hit piece came out and was like I would like to Shadow you as you campaign and then I had a call with her and I was telling her how we were Our goal was to try all these unconventional tactics and make it possible for her you know, competent employed people who don't want to spend all their time raising money or all their time campaigning to actually get elected into office and make a positive difference.

And she just seemed kind of jarred by it. Like, oh, I wasn't aware of that. Like, she, she was, I felt like she had blinders on. I'm just like, I'm going to. Look at this freakish enemy. Well, I know, and I think running for office

elitist. Right? So she probably expected you to have an ultra elitist attitude towards all of this,

Malcolm Collins: I [00:48:00] guess.

And

Simone Collins: what I might tell her is. Our attitudes are elitist insofar as we have disdain for the existing power structure and see it as beneath us, but we don't have disdain for the, the, the average American and see them as beneath us. Yeah, we

have disdain for those who choose not to show up in whatever capacity that might be.

Yeah, so yeah, I mean, we may have a great deal of disdain for your average political candidate or political consultant or pollster. But we would have very little for the average American, which is what they were trying to frame that as. And I'm like, it doesn't work that way. All right, we're about ready to go.

Let me assume the position.

Oh, hold on. I'll also send you something that we can go over.

And let's see, is your shirt okay? Is your hair okay? Is your mic on?

Oh, make sure for the reporter that you do wash my clothes tonight.

They're in the dryer.

Speaker 7: [00:49:00] What flag is that, buddy? It's a flag of 22. Uh, it's um, Teddy is giving us flags again. Oh. Because he likes the flag. Do you like the flag too? Yeah. Why do you like it? Because Teddy likes it. Well, we want it, and I'll buy it for him as a present. Okay.