How Did You Find Your Way Into Motion Design?

Greg, I love that you open with like, let's talk about design and then you bring me on the show because I would not consider myself a designer. So it is interesting. I feel like you're almost the perfect person to talk about how we use design as a tool. We know about all the principles, but we're very cautious at ever even calling ourselves designers. Yeah. And to tell me, one of the people who has legitimately inspired me the most and taught me a lot and even in person kind of had a, gave me a light bulb moment for how I think about color has been Greg.