Lik toaly: I think the third element of the conversation operating system that my publisher wanted to collapse into one was narrative. The story of a conversation, iis what we both remember. Thread is a rope, you know, you're just right back there. Verse is a very tenuous thread that breaks very easily. Some of the chapters were very hard for me to write. As a jewish man, i don't feel like i know what it means to be truly powerful.
Daniel Stillman is a conversation designer and coach. He’s the host of
The Conversation Factory podcast and author of
Good Talk: How to Design Conversations That Matter.
This is a special episode of The Informed Life: it’s the first recorded in person, while Daniel and I attended and taught at UX Lisbon in May of 2022. Fittingly, it’s an experiment: a freeform, less produced conversation about how we converse. In some cases, this results in less context than you may expect. In particular, you’ll hear references to the names of other speakers at the conference. I’ve included links to their profiles in the show notes.
Show notes
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