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Martha Wainwright

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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The Importance of Listening to Music

Rufus was a few years older than you. So it's not surprising that he signed a record deal before you did. He started touring the world and you at that time became his backup singer. You joined fellow backup singer Joan waster, now known as Joan as police woman on the road. She has also been on the show and is a dear friend.

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