In a thought experiment, how much would i have to pay you to kill a cat with your hands? You can't ask the person while they're experiencing pleasure, because as soon as you asked them and they thought about it, they'd like all my life is plantless and stupid. That doesn't seem like the right analogy there. It seems like if you view an individual as a population, you just kind of ask to top one %, how's your society going? And they say, it's going ri we'll right butt. In those cases, the reason it's a mistake, or is it’s the wrong way of measuring it, is because they could be