Conversations with tyler is produced by the mercatus center at george mason university, bridging the gap between academic ideas and real world problems. To day, i'm here with neil ferguson, who needs no introduction, and that's neil n i a l l. Neil has the new book out called doom, the politics of catastrophe. As a general cultural matter, how would you describe the difference between english pessimism and scottish pess will? And how does welsh pessimism fit into this picture? Well, i'm a student of welsh pessimism because i spend quite a bit of time in wales when i'm in the u.

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