Sli: These days, a p is are everywhere. And you go to zappier and they're like, we integrate with however many thousand different api in points that you might want to work with. But of course, creating a p is is super important. So focusing on that side, how have you seen the v tion ofapi brameworks come on? Soli: I was using a bunch of those framers for a long time, a bunch of flugins,. Trying one thing, trying the other. It's all pretty crazy.