I've been encouraged by the 30 by 30 movements and the COP 15, the Biosphere Treaty in Montreal that the Chinese hosted with the Canadians. I learned that there's a network for greening the financial system that is owned and operated by about 90 of the biggest central banks on earth. You have to be able to make your living doing good biosphere work rather than bad biosphere. Although central banks are trying to green the financial system, such that there is something more on to me. Well, but that would be bad if it was an oxymoron.

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