i remember vividly being on stage in church and looking at her, and she was really beaten up. From there, i would say often just to myself, wow, i'm sweating like sandra. It's just the double esses were too nasty delicious for me to fes up. And that could be what sanders doin couple of thigs. But it iso also because you are hyper processing everything which is another foreshadow into our conversation. I mean, it's funny and it's ad. It's a little nasty, delicious. Let's just call it what it ies, it's nasty'